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Wheels/Tyres / Re: Will a spare fit
« Last Post by apav on Today at 02:31:38 pm »
Yes the car should not have had any changes since 2013 but on this latest facelift, they added the adblue. It is in the spare wheel space and that green carton on top of it does not look more than 1-2cm deep. Then below that the whole space must be the tank. I do not think you can fit it on top of the tank. Take some photos but it does not look like a good option.

You could crash the tank with the wheel if you bolt it down firmly. Then you will need to raise the floor by a lot as it does not look deep enough. Your best bet is to have on top of the cover like normal cargo. I have the second generation car and it has cargo anchors behind the rear seats. So you could potentially strap it there and fit other luggage on top and around it.

The subwoofer was going into the spare wheel at the second generation cars but on the third generation it is somewhere around the dash and/or below the front seats. Give it a go if you have another space saver and try to remove one of your wheels and check how much space it takes in the boot as cargo. You could potentially carry it once per year when you go on long trips and rely on the road assistance locally.

It is a matter of luck really whether you will need it. A lot of people only drive locally to work and have a flat tyre when they hit the motorway on the holidays as the tyres overheat when run underinflated and then it is game over. I had one of the tyres going soon after I got the car but the tyres were already cracked and I fell into a motorway roadway crate. The dealer was insisted that the cracked tyres were suitable for a used car but he fitted a new tyre with some discount. Since then, I never had any problems but the tyres are not cracked anymore and I am going over the pressures every time I use the car.
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cwolf89, I hope you get things sorted under warranty. I have exactly the same car as you but haven't had these problems
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Wheels/Tyres / Re: Will a spare fit
« Last Post by saddler5 on Today at 12:34:46 pm »
The boot floor is shaped the same in the petrol and diesel models. I have a petrol Sport that came with a space saver wheel courtesy of the previous owner and this fits perfectly. I can only assume the ad-blue tank was an afterthought and that was the only place they could fit it in
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Wheels/Tyres / Re: Will a spare fit
« Last Post by Matthewbanditrider on January 24, 2021, 05:41:04 pm »
Thanks apav. As you can just see in the link you provided, there is a shallow recess for a wheel, with a captive nut. I don't understand why mazda would go to such lengths, if a wheel cannot be stored. I know their is an option for a sub, but its little smaller than a wheel.
Will maybe mock up the foam inserts for raising the boot floor and try the space saver from the wifes car.
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Let me start by thanking you for taking the time to write such a detailed reply, much appreciated.

First, a couple of answers:

Is there any case you bought a car with known faults and they gave you a discount for it? These cars are sold for £19k brand new or £18k brand new but registered. They were also giving £6k discount for a scrappage scheme but that could be for the full price which currently sits at £25k. There were brand new cars advertised at £15k at some point.

I don't think so, though the price sounds familiar. First, it was brand new and I requested the dealer to keep ALL the plastics on the car, including the ones on the alloys. Even the japanese delivery label was still in the windscreen, so the car was literally brand new (2 miles). Second, I have chosen my own colour after going back and forth about it and there was no attempt to make me go for a specific colour. What are the odds they would have a faulty car in every colour waiting around? Third, I haven't been told anything and I suspect this would be heavily illegal. I can't imagine a dealer would be able to sell something that's known to be faulty without at least mentioning it. Also, where would the fault come from? It's brand new, after all, it wouldn't pass quality control in the factory if it had an issue of any kind.

Do you have more information about this thing? I'd like to to do some more reading on it, please.

Do you know if you have warranty? If your warranty is valid, you can inspect the car for free at any dealer. A dealer may not find a problem, but you can have another inspection to another dealer. Maybe you can keep doing that if you do not mention that somebody has checked the car already but just state that you have some concerns that you would like to check under warranty.

Yes, the car has full warranty for another two years, so that's set. Are inspections under warranty really free or is it a case that if the dealer refuses to acknowledge the problem or decides it's not worth dealing with I have to pay? The things I mentioned are there, clear as daylight, easily reproducible, it's more a case of them saying "this is how they all are" and asking me to pay for hours of "investigating".

However, if you go to the dealer, and if the dealer says that you need a new speaker somewhere to be replaced, keep in mind that cars are put together by robots and they are not designed to be taken apart. So if an eager dealer is happy to start removing fragile trims to replace a faulty speaker, you may end up with a visibly damaged car that may not have any speaker problems anymore but it may have plastic trim problems.

Unfortunately I'm more than familiar with taking cars apart, car guy here :). I know exactly what you're talking about and I'd probably get rid of the car if they fixed the issue but created another problem with the trim in the process. The most annoying thing in a car is weird noises from some plastic, for me that's a reason to get rid of the car straight away, even if it means making a loss.

The window issue is a feature of these cars. It was a huge thing when they were first released and a lot of people just part exchanged them for a premium car. There were a lot of adjustments to the rubbers around the window and the door but people who could notice the noise, were not convinced. There is a good chance that you can hear better than the average person and that is why you notice the problems with the audio and the window.

Not sure I understand your point here, are you saying there is a documented issue relating to the windows? If so, where can I read more about this again? I'm not sure what "feature" we're talking about, unless a window crane like you would find on an '87 Lada is something to be proud of. Those adjustments, can they be made under warranty and is there a chance they would help?

Having said that, I am extremely disappointed, especially after reading your reply. I tried really hard to become a Mazda fan, deciding to switch from Audi to Mazda after hearing about how good Mazda is lately and how their interiors are simply amazing, not to mention the reliability of the car overall. Unfortunately, I'm left thinking that it's nothing more but a glorified Vauxhall or Hyundai. The "premium" sound is not in fact premium, if it has problems after just 12 months. The power train is not that clever, nor is their SkyActiv platform, if a Dacia has less vibrations in the cabin. And that interior might look nice on the surface of it, but once you start looking at it in detail, it becomes clear that my 13 years old Audi with nearly 200k miles on the clock was a few notches above. Combine that with a price tag that sometimes exceeds a similar Mercedes or Volvo, true premium brands, and you start to wonder what the whole hype around Mazda is.

Shame really, as it did have potential and I was really hoping they are indeed trying to become a premium car maker. Instead, it seems they charge premium prices for just under average build quality.

Let's see how they handle the problem, that might save them, otherwise I'll probably change the car. That low price means I'm already in positive equity, especially lately with second hand prices going up.

Thanks!
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Is there any case you bought a car with known faults and they gave you a discount for it? These cars are sold for £19k brand new or £18k brand new but registered. They were also giving £6k discount for a scrappage scheme but that could be for the full price which currently sits at £25k. There were brand new cars advertised at £15k at some point.

Do you know if you have warranty? If your warranty is valid, you can inspect the car for free at any dealer. A dealer may not find a problem, but you can have another inspection to another dealer. Maybe you can keep doing that if you do not mention that somebody has checked the car already but just state that you have some concerns that you would like to check under warranty.

If one of the speakers makes funny noises, it can be faulty. Something like that can easily be replaced under warranty. Whether the dealer can hear or not, is a tricky thing that depends on the morals of the dealer. You just hope that somebody will notice the difference and fix it by potentially replacing the speaker.

However, if you go to the dealer, and if the dealer says that you need a new speaker somewhere to be replaced, keep in mind that cars are put together by robots and they are not designed to be taken apart. So if an eager dealer is happy to start removing fragile trims to replace a faulty speaker, you may end up with a visibly damaged car that may not have any speaker problems anymore but it may have plastic trim problems.

It sounds that there is something wrong with the speakers and that bothers you. If you have warranty, you need to discuss it with the dealer. If they suggest replacing the speaker, ask them to show you what they are going to do, e.g. remove this and that plastic trim, and take photos of the trims they are going to remove before they do any work. Then let them remove the trims to access the speaker and check the condition of the trims when they deliver the car. Keep in mind, that even if the trims look fine, underneath they have damaged the insultation, forgot to fit screws, etc.

You need to balance how much you care about the sound quality versus a potential headache dealing with the dealer. If you own the car and want to keep it over long period, consider whether the originality of the trims is better than the audio quality. Ask whether a radio station audio sound listened by an average person would be noticed as problematic. If that is the case, then yes you have a problem and something could be done for it, but thre is a huge potential for adventure.

The window issue is a feature of these cars. It was a huge thing when they were first released and a lot of people just part exchanged them for a premium car. There were a lot of adjustments to the rubbers around the window and the door but people who could notice the noise, were not convinced. There is a good chance that you can hear better than the average person and that is why you notice the problems with the audio and the window.

Again you can ask the dealer to check it and let them do the usual inspections. But again, there is potential to cause further damage and achieve no result. People who could hear the noise, never found a solution. Others, were saying that it was completely quiet. The best way to check how bad it is, is to drive a better car. Then going back to your car, you will be able to compare the noise levels.

So in summary, if you have warranty, any dealer can inspect the car and do work for free. After this work, the car as a whole may turn up to be better or worse. It is a bit of a gamble. It is more likely than not, that nothing will improve.

If you decide to check the noise, ask them to check the vibrations and the clutch. The vibrations can add up and cause noise problems. But once you mention the clutch, you are in the danger zone of being told that the car has been used, there were no problems at the start, and all that is expected after 10k miles. There are other posts of similar problems with the clutch and the gears and the dealer never found any problem.

My guess is that this is how this particular car is. It has some noise problems from audio, vibration and window, and something is going on with the clutch. It is more likely that these will not get any worse and you will have to learn to live around them.
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Wheels/Tyres / Re: Will a spare fit
« Last Post by apav on January 24, 2021, 07:05:02 am »
https://youtu.be/M6Z6nCqSMEA?t=17

That looks like a proper zoom zoom thinking flooding the boot with ad blue.

So it looks like that they filled the traditional space of a spare wheel with the after thought ad blue tank and there is no free space even for a space saver wheel.

I do not think the road assistance can refuse to go to a car with no spare wheel as most of them do not have it nowadays. But maybe there is a business logic behind that, as they cannot replace the flat tyre wheel with the spare wheel, there is no point in them driving to the car, removing the wheel, driving it to the tyre shop and back. So they may just send the mobile tyre vans.

The waiting time is a thing and when you travel a long distance over many countries, it makes sense to invest in the spare wheel.

Buy a second full size wheel, used or new, but the same as the ones the car uses. Then fit a new tyre to it and keep rotating it every time you fit new tyres.

It seems that it will need to be secured in the boot and you can use some plastic fake leather wrap like the 4x4 type of car.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/One-17-Mazda-6-SE-Nav-Alloy-Wheel-Rim-10-Spoke-A/183264925600?hash=item2aab70d7a0:g:WTQAAOSwVK9bGoFN

I say buy the same wheel to make sure that the nuts suit the wheel. If the nuts do not suit the wheel, they can come off after driving. So while they should be cheaper wheels, I would be careful what to fit. As you do not buy them every day, if a wheel the same as the ones you have is around £100, go for it. Any wheel is sold for around £50, and so pay the extra and have peace of mind.
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Wheels/Tyres / Re: Will a spare fit
« Last Post by Matthewbanditrider on January 23, 2021, 11:01:14 am »
Thank you for responses.
I would like a spare as I travel to Poland at least once a year and some breakdown services won't respond to flats without a spare. Anyway, in the event of a puncture, if i have a spare I can be on the go again in 20mins, rather than waiting an hour for breakdown. Plus, if you get a  flat at speed, the tyre is then unsafe to use repair kits. (Might invest in runflats later).
Will try get photo of wheel well to show my apprehension regards dealer advice
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Wheels/Tyres / Re: Will a spare fit
« Last Post by cwolf89 on January 23, 2021, 10:02:02 am »
it is known that if the car has an ad-blue tank, the space for the spare wheel is gone and you can't really use it.

is there a particular reason you want a spare wheel? it adds weight, it costs money, it uses valuable space. unless of course you drive in the middle of nowhere and you need to be up and running asap, in which case investing in run-flats would be a better choice. for all other cases, I would say rely on roadside assistance.
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Hi everyone,

New to this forum, I was wondering if I can get some advice on how to proceed with my problem...

I bought a brand new 6 sport nav+ in December 2019, I got it for peanuts, otherwise I wouldn't have gotten a brand new one. It's the 2.0 petrol engine and generally speaking I'm fairly happy with it. There are some issues which shouldn't be there, like some cabin vibration at idle and clutch judder in first gear, but I'm hoping they'll go away once the parts bed in, I drove it less than 10k miles so far.

One of the main reasons I got the sport nav+ was the premium sound system. I was very happy with my sound quality until recently, especially since I got a premium spotify membership that means I get the best audio quality available (Apple CarPlay).

More recently, I started hearing a thumping noise from the driver's door speaker. For the record, not all songs do it, you can have a song with a lot of bass and it would play just fine at any volume, but some frequencies cause the front door to vibrate quite a lot, distorting the sound. I thought the sound comes from the speaker, but it's in fact right next to my ear, so the top part of the door. I read something about the windows having something to do with it, but it sounded unlikely. To my surprise, I noticed that both front windows "squeeze" the door trim when I close them. They literally pull the door trim towards the door, making a bit of a squeaky sound. There seems to be too much tension on the motor driving the window.

As a result, the entire door assembly becomes extremely tight and can't handle the sound frequencies/vibrations, creating that noise you'd expect from a 20 year old thrashed vauxhall. If I release the tension by lowering the window a fraction of an inch (window still closed, but tension is released), the sound improves. Still not 100%, but barely noticeable. In other words, here is the problem:

  • Nearly new sport nav+ bought Dec 2019, less than 10k miles
  • Good quality audi from premium music service via Apple CarPlay
  • Extensive tension on both front door trims when windows are in closed position
  • Thumping sounds from door trim AND speaker, distorting sounds

I never had to rely on Mazda for repairs and I was hoping not to ever have to, given it's the most reliable brand in the world. I'd like to get this sorted, I don't think it's acceptable for such a car, regardless of how little I paid for it, to have these issues, not after 1 year anyway. They're trying to enter the premium market, they need to deliver.

How do I approach the dealer to look at BOTH the door problem and the speaker issue and how do I make sure this is not brushed off with a "listen to something else" or "turn the volume down" solution? Also, my dealer is a bit far from home, can I get my warranty sorted at any other official Mazda dealer?

Thanks all!
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