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Fuse Box Problem
« on: July 16, 2019, 12:39:59 pm »
I have a Mazda 6 sport 2.5L 2008 Petrol and I have had a problem with the alarm going off randomly for awhile now.
I have done some lengthy research online about it and found a guy that said the connector plug in the fuse box can get tarnished and cleaning it off fixed his problem. So I disconnected my negative off the battery and pulled the plug out to find that it was badly tarnished and scorched, I then replaced it and the negative so that I could go and get some contact cleaner.
My car then struggled to start which was strange but was ok, I began my journey and the car cut out for no reason and then back on instantly as if the ignition was turned off for a second. Further on it completely cut out and left me coasting down the road and wouldn't start again.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!!
 

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Re: Fuse Box Problem
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2019, 04:53:09 pm »
Did that contact cleaner work?

The plug may not fit again as the initial/permanent contact is now broken. Maybe if you replace that bit will work out.

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Re: Fuse Box Problem
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2019, 06:50:51 pm »
Thank you apav.

The contact clean hasn’t worked so my next idea is to replace that plug.
My thinking is that it might be badly scorched inside but I’m just guessing now, plus I’m gonna clean all the earthing points and hope lol.
This is the plug I’m talking about, that’s it after I cleaned it.
I’m trying to upload a picture of it but can’t for some reason.

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Re: Fuse Box Problem
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2019, 09:10:30 am »
Look at life through the windscreen, not the rearview mirror.

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Re: Fuse Box Problem
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2019, 08:52:04 am »
Sorry about the slow reply with the pictures, this is the link to the picture of the plug that I think might be the problem but I’m not sure.

https://vgy.me/u/XxkCd1

I hope someone can help me.

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Re: Fuse Box Problem
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2019, 10:10:34 am »
This looks melted.

I am not sure if you can replace it and make it work but for sure it does not look like a working part and will need replacement.

You may need to go behind that and find out the rest of the connections, whether they still work, whether there is a problem, etc.

Because if something messed up and melted this, it may happen again.

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Re: Fuse Box Problem
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2019, 10:18:53 am »
Thank you Apav for getting back to me.

It looked a lot worse then that before I cleaned it off with the contact cleaner, all the dielectric grease was brown. You can still see the grease inside some of the contact wholes.
Iv cleaned most of the earthing points under the bonnet (well the ones i can see) and thought i had solved the problem of the alarm and this but found out today that the alarm still wants to go off when it feels like it.

I just dont know what to do. :'(

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Re: Fuse Box Problem
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2019, 02:40:21 pm »
I agree with what Apav has said. That looks to be in serious trouble. A connector strip should never look like that.  Are you the first owner of the car ?

If so have you had any form of electrical failure before ?  If not then the previous owner did, at some point. 

I would urge replacement rather than trying to rectify. 
 
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Re: Fuse Box Problem
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2019, 02:45:44 pm »
Thank you Willpower

No I'm not the first owner, I think it had 2 female owners before me.
I have brought another plug its second hand but a lot better then this one. Do you think this could be why the engine is cutting out and throwing up lots of faults? could it be why the alarm keeps going off too?


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Re: Fuse Box Problem
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2019, 05:18:38 pm »
I think that is highly possible. From your picture it looks like there have been several incidences of short circuiting.
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Re: Fuse Box Problem
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2019, 01:51:44 pm »
Just to update on the situation.

I have taken it to a electric mechanic with a second hand plug and found out that the plug will fit but doesn’t have the right number of female connectors in it. After which I found out that it was for a diesel and not petrol. I have continued my search for a part but to no luck  :'(, I can found hundreds of diesels but no 2.5L petrols.
What I have noticed in my search though that all connectors of all types of Mazda 6’s have this tarnished and scored connectors. I have been in touch with Mazda and sent them pictures and are now waiting to see what they say. I don’t hold my breath though.
They also have given me a quote for a nice new one which will take up to 4 weeks to be delivered at a nice price of £421 lol.

Does anyone know where I can get one for  :-[ I have literally looked everywhere.

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Re: Fuse Box Problem
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2019, 02:15:19 pm »
Did Mazda tell you how this part is called and is the part number?

If you google for connector plug for fuse box, you will not get anything like this.

So I am not sure what the name is but you may have it from Mazda together with the part number.

Once you have this information, it will be easy to find what you are looking for.

There will be shops online selling this kind of stuff.

The autoelectrician should have no problem sourcing it as well.

But before you replace anything, make sure that everything else works as it should.

Once you are sure that you are running fine, then just replace this part.

If you go through old posts, you will find out an independent Mazda specialist, called as cars:

http://as-cars.co.uk/

If you cannot find this part cheaply online, you need to find somebody who could source it possibly from a scrap car.

Because the 2.5lt cars still hold strong values, you will be able to find the part one way or another.

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Re: Fuse Box Problem
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2019, 07:55:38 am »
No Mazda didn’t tell me the name of the part all they said was ‘multi connector’ that was it really. I have the part number (GS1E 67 070A) but even using that to search for one is a task. It just seems that there is a lot of breaking diesels out there but not many petrol.

Update on contacting Mazda customer relations.
I’m really happy with the customer relations, she couldn’t help me enough to be fair to them. I was expecting them to just say yes it’s broken now give us £421. She asked me to email her all the pictures of the connectors that I had found with this same scorched marks which she then showed the Mazda tech guys. She then got back in touch with me and told me that they said they don’t think there is a problem with the connector and that the tarnishing is just the dielectric grease which they put round the port which is the crank shaft sensor, they think it’s a bad earth and there advice is to clean them especially the main one on the suspension tower next to the battery.
I have done this and drove it to work this morning no problem but I wouldn’t say it’s fixed just yet I just need to keep using it and see. But pleased with their help so far.

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Re: Fuse Box Problem
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2019, 08:54:57 am »
This sounds good. There are older posts about bad earths causing all sorts of problems.

When you google the part number, it returns a wiring loom:

http://catcar.info/mazda/?lang=en&l=bWFya2V0PT1ldXJvfHxzdD09OTB8fHN0cz09eyIxMCI6Ik1hcmtldCIsIjYwIjoiRXVyb3BlIiwiNzAiOiJNQVpEQTYgR0ggMTJcLzIwMDctIiwiODAiOiJCT0RZIEVMRUNUUk9OSUNTIiwiOTAiOiI2NzAxQSBFTkdJTkUgJiBUUkFOU01JU1NJT04gV0lSSU5HIEhBUk5FU1NFUyJ9fHxtb2Q9PU1BWkRBNnx8ZGlyMT09QjJ8fGRpcjI9PUFMR0ExMHx8Z3JwPT1ZMXx8cnNpbWc9PXx8cGltZz09M0cyQlpBMXx8Z3JwY29kZT09NjcwMUF8fGVzcTM9PQ%3D%3D

It is called Harness, Engine and it looks a bit different than what you got there. But it must be a whole set including your bit from the photo.

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Re: Fuse Box Problem
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2019, 10:06:04 am »
Yeah I saw them old posts and that’s what made me clean them up.

Yeah that’s what it’s called wiring loom, the problem I was have and still are with other parts is finding them.
I’m looking for a interior roof console that has the down lights and alarm sensor in it but can’t seem to find one for my car. I didn’t realise how raw the car was, I just can’t seem to find anything for it.